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Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:43 pm
by Jager • 178 Posts

How did the make the kite and heater shield
as reenactments people make them with plywood?
where is the end grain, or which direction is the fiber

And jousting shields were they covered with steel ?

Wy i ask is for battle damage and interesting

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RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:22 pm
by Ben90 • 429 Posts

I only know that roman shields were out of wood and covered with leather. I´m not sure but I think that ther were several shield types in the middle ages: some made of wood boards, some made completely out of metal and some out of both.


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#3

RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:53 am
by Jager • 178 Posts

I know that they used lime for the lightness and also the viking used it cause the lime trap the weapon.
They would be covered with fabric as Canvas. Think that if reinforced whit Rawhide then they would be protected
?
linden is split resistant

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RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:07 pm
by Steven • 267 Posts

Normally they used the wood they had. They made several layers. Wood, the white glue (made out of bones), linen...and these stuff 3-4 times. Then they used leather or boneskin for the edge.

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RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:19 pm
by Jager • 178 Posts

woow medieval ply wood, thanks
Then they would be sturdy. Perhaps the fabric fell off in a rainy condition?

Dont know how good animal glue is.
but it's applied heated and break off in the same joint

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RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:22 pm
by Ben90 • 429 Posts

animal glue was/is very good. Compound-bows were glued with animal glue and a bow has to be very tough...

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#7

RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:54 pm
by Steven • 267 Posts

You see the shield at my avatar. It was just made like I explained. And we testes a morningstar. It worked. We needed about 5 direct hits until it breaks.

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RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:28 pm
by Jager • 178 Posts

How did it break, what wood was it?

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RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:27 pm
by Steven • 267 Posts

It was only a Birch Chip record. It simply broke. We hit it several times right in the middle until it splintered


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RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:38 pm
by Jager • 178 Posts

I saw this for a long tima ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbK7m3w9FXI

lime would probably not shatter and the fabric + the edge reinforcement would held it together.
So for a realistic modelling perhaps a deformed shield is the best?


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#11

RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:35 pm
by Valdemar • 2.128 Posts

Well I think that shields were made in a lot of different qualities and sizes etc. But still fasinating to think that this type of several layers is the same used on mordern fighting vehicles...


Best regards

ValdemarMiniatures.com

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RE: Questions about shields

in Modelling tutorials and painting Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:50 am
by Steven • 267 Posts

some things never change *g* only the material... btw. nice youtube videos. I lokked the "Shield" from part 1-9...faszinating

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