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Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:17 am
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Quote: Valdemar wrote in post #3Yes, this is the historical correct shield/emblem of the Lionheart
I like it but it´s Disputed/unproven..it´s more likely (commonly accepted) he wore a single Lion Rampant or three passant guardant
Zitat The first English king who can be proven to have borne arms is Richard I (1189-99). Two great seals of him still exist. On the first Richard bears a shield with a single lion rampant.
This was replaced by a new Great Seal, the matter is anything but simple. To start with, the date of adoption of the three lions by Richard is not quite certain. Although there is written testimony that he had a new seal made for him in 1195, he continued to use his first seal. Of his second seal, the first impression that has survived dates only from 1198.
It is strange that three years elapsed before we find any proof of Richard actually using his new seal - so accordingly, we cannot be quite sure whether the three lions seal was indeed the instrument of 1195. The matter is made more complicated because some British scholars believe that Richard also bore two lions combatant, based on the fact that on his first seal the lion rampant is facing sinister. But this must not be over interpreted. Other early seals exist showing beasts so facing, and it is always possible that the engraver chose to make the lion face as it did to symbolically defy enemies.
Adrian Ailes, says in his book, The Origins of the Royal Arms of England: Their Development to 1199, that Richard "may" have carried two lions (either Passant or combatant) whilst in the middle east as his brother John (among others ) was using Armorials with two lions and for Richard to wear two showed allegiance to his kingdom but not his brother..hence them possibly being Combatant...but would he have had time to make a seal showing such a design whilst in the middle east?
It´s the first time I´ve seen it on a model so I like it More original than always the three lions Passant.